Step back a bit from the discussion, based on this discussion, I would propose that Euler angles to quaternion conversions are a very good example of the type of functionality we should not have in the IMP API. The reasons I say this are

1) it doesn't interact with any other IMP data structures in a non-trivial way (we just have to make sure that the Rotation3D functions to and from quaternion are well documented). So anyone could implement it the same way we did.

2) we don't have any particular expertise in implementing it (we have to scrounge code from places to implement it)

3) we don't really use it (the only reason it came up at all was because a test failed, not because someone used it), so no one really cares about it

4) it kind of sucked, yet no one complained, so it is unlikely that anyone else was really using it

5) it doesn't have any solid relation to IMP's mission

6) the original justification, that lots of people would like using euler angles better than the alternatives doesn't seem to have panned out. Axis/angle and other ways of representing rotations have been used instead.

That said, since it is there, we need to decide what to do with it (for each block). We can

1) deprecate it.

2) remove it. We can stick the removed code into a github gist so that we can simply point anyone who was hurt by the removal at that and they can, in less time than this discussion took, patch their code by providing a definition near the use.

3) we can attempt to make the code better, but since, in my understanding, no one uses it or directly cares about this, it is a bit of a dubious exercise (since without clear use cases, it isn't really clear what amount of better is worth the effort).

On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Dina Schneidman <duhovka@gmail.com> wrote:

I think we should try the more stable implementation. if it works, we can keep this functionality.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Barak Raveh <barak.raveh@gmail.com> wrote:

So what's the final verdict on this? 

Daniel, I invalidated the tests in algebra, but that's not necessary for functions we're gonna remove - should we remove the two tests that fail ("Check Euler ZYZ conversions" and "test conversion of euler angles") or do we need to keep part of them?

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Javier Velazquez-Muriel <javi@salilab.org> wrote:

em2d/internal contains more stable versions.

On Wed Apr 24 14:56:45 2013, Barak.raveh wrote:

Does anyone use Euler angles? The related functions don't work too
well (numerical instability) so let us know if you need them / feel
like fixing them / ok with getting rid of them / marking then as dangerous

On Apr 24, 2013, at 2:53 PM, drussel <notifications@github.com

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Should probably just remove the functions. They are numerically
unstable and no one has any interest in fixing them.

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