Hi Modeller developers and friends,
in Sanchez and Sali 1997 Curr Opin Struct Biol 7:206-214 I read that a possible way to improve on homology modeling below 30 PID could be "iterative changes in the alignment during caluclation" My question is: Is this a great idea that has been realized already and I just missed where and how, is it work in progress or has it been discarded again due to technical problems? Could one, alternatively, if only one template is availble, use this template several times with different alignment variants (home-made version of modeling on several templates, so to speak) so that different homology derived restraints go into the same VTF, or is it, at present knowledge, better to go for ensembles of models and then try to construct one or more "best" consensus models? Any and all information and ideas are much appreciated! margot
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Hi Margot
Without wishing to sound egoistic, you might want to take a look at some of my modelling articles. The iterative approach to modelling is exactly the one I take. Basically, I make an initial alignment of my target with one or more structures, based on fold recognition (often) adjusted using common sense so that insertions and deletions are well accommodated. I then make a SET of models - 15 or 20, employing a large (4A) randomisation in modeller. In this way I try to explore lots of conformational possibilities. I then analyse the set with PROSA II (freely available) which gives me 1) an overall score that can support or not the fold recognition [there's the pG server too] and 2) profiles which highlight problematic bits of the models. I then look at the 'bad' bits to see if I can imagine any alignment variants there that would produce better models (more typically packed and better solvent exposure). I then make new sets of models with these new ideas and see if they're better than the original set. And so on, until I can't make any more improvements.
Assuming that PROSA II can distinguish between poorer and better models (and there's cause for optimism - in the original paper it can pick up threading errors in crystal structures) then the final model should be better than the original.
I also do PROCHECK analysis, mainly towards the end. I used to use VERIFY_3D, but then we upgraded machines and I no longer have access. Very frustratingly, this program seems unavailable. There's a server for individual structures but that's no use for people working with sets.
Best wishes
Daniel
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On Thu, 4 Jul 2002, Margot Ernst wrote:
> > Hi Modeller developers and friends, > > in Sanchez and Sali 1997 Curr Opin Struct Biol 7:206-214 > I read that a possible way to improve on homology modeling below 30 PID could > be "iterative changes in the alignment during caluclation" > My question is: Is this a great idea that has been realized already and I > just missed where and how, is it work in progress or has it been discarded > again due to technical problems? > Could one, alternatively, if only one template is availble, use this template > several times with different alignment variants (home-made version of > modeling on several templates, so to speak) so that different homology > derived restraints go into the same VTF, or is it, at present knowledge, > better to go for ensembles of models and then try to construct one or more > "best" consensus models? > Any and all information and ideas are much appreciated! > margot > > -- > Dr. Margot Ernst > Abteilung Prof. Sieghart > Institut f. Hirnforschung > Spitalgasse 4 > A-1090 WIEN > margot.ernst@univie.ac.at > visit brainresearch: www.univie.ac.at/brainresearch > > >
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