MULTIPLE/SINGLE templates for modelling.
I have two basic questions which I am desperate to get answers. Any body there who can help me ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. In homology based modelling is it good to use single template or multiple templates?
I have a cytochromep450 protein which shares maximum homology with another protein of same class . But there were some missing residues in the template. When used for modelling the region corresponding to this missing region had bad environments in Verigy3D. I went on for loop modelling for this region. But is this a good approach ?
I feel the alignment itself should take care of everything. I heard about using multiple templates in such cases. How is this approach followed and how good is it ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------
2. I need to model some point mutations into this same protein sequence. What is the best way of introducing mutations. Should the mutations be introduced in the sequence and then modelled seperately, or should they be introduced in the model of the wildtype ?
I want to do molecular dynamic simulations on Wildtype and Mutants to compare and contrast the wildtype and mutant structures. What effect would both these approaches have on the correctness of my results. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll be very grateful to you for your patience for all your suggessions for my quieries.
Thanking you,
sridhar
I can offer you some advice, Mr Sridhar, but I cannot call myself an expert :
> 1. In homology based modelling is it good to use single template or > multiple templates? In general, yes, because the templates provide information on the parts of the structure least likely to vary with changes in sequence. It is not such a good idea to use templates with huge variations, as is typical amongst structures from remote homologs. It can also be unhelpful to use every homolog - this adds noise to the structural data. The most important factor is that the structures are all of good quality, and are as close as possible to the sequence to be modelled, particularly in the functional and/or highly conserved parts of your sequence.
> I have a cytochromep450 protein which shares maximum homology with another > protein of same class . But there were some missing residues in the template. > When used for modelling the region corresponding to this missing region had > bad environments in Verigy3D. I went on for loop modelling for this region. > But is this a good approach ? Loop modelling is the logical approach if no reliable template can be found for these regions. By default, modeller does not optimize the geometry for unaligned residues of a sequence - so these parts do not score well in a structural validation program. Loop modelling will improve their geometry, but is not guaranteed to give you the perfect answer!
> I feel the alignment itself should take care of everything. I heard about > using multiple templates in such cases. How is this approach followed and > how good is it ? The alignment is of paramount importance (as you would read if you look at the archives of this mailing list). For multiple templates, one must take care that multiple sequence alignment artefacts are not introduced. Whilst a good MSA will provide the best alignment data for a homology model, sometimes there are locally inconsistent residue mappings, sometimes within conserved regions of secondary structure, because one or more of the proteins has a region of low homology. If these are not filtered out, ultimately by a little trial and error, then they can severely reduce the model quality. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 2. I need to model some point mutations into this same protein sequence. > What is the best way of introducing mutations. Should the mutations be > introduced in the sequence and then modelled seperately, or should they be > introduced in the model of the wildtype ? You should try them both. If you introduce a single mutation into the wt. that catastrophically affects its structure, you are more likely to see this from the model. Changing the sequence that you are modelling only adds a little more noise into the final structure - which may not be correct to start with.
> I want to do molecular dynamic simulations on Wildtype and Mutants to > compare and contrast the wildtype and mutant structures. What effect would > both these approaches have on the correctness of my results. Again - this is another question, that can't be easily generalised. I think the answer above still applies - and you should observe some meaningful behaviour far earlier in the wt. mutant's simulation than in a model that is already full of noise.
This was supposed to be a quick reply - but I hope it helps. j.
Hi!
along this line I would like to add the following question to the discussion:
I agree that multiple structural alignments (MSAs) are the best starting point for homology modelling.
However, how can you pass (sequence-independant) information about the quality of the alignment to Modeller? T-COFFEE for example outputs an alignment score (CORE index) that gives you the confidence that we can have in the alignment (locally - residue by residue). This CORE index is independant of the amino acid composition! It may tell you for example that two sequences that share much less sequence homology than two others are structurally much closer than the two sharing a higher sequence homology.
At present I don't see an easy way to pass this information on to Modeller, except by editing the alignment by hand.
I would be interested in your comments,
Kind regards, Karsten Suhre. (IGS-CNRS, Marseille, Fance)
> > I feel the alignment itself should take care of everything. I heard about > > using multiple templates in such cases. How is this approach followed and > > how good is it ?
> The alignment is of paramount importance (as you would read if you look > at the archives of this mailing list). For multiple templates, one must > take care that multiple sequence alignment artefacts are not introduced. > Whilst a good MSA will provide the best alignment data for a homology > model, sometimes there are locally inconsistent residue mappings, sometimes > within conserved regions of secondary structure, because one or more > of the proteins has a region of low homology. If these are not filtered > out, ultimately by a little trial and error, then they can severely reduce > the model quality.
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Karsten Suhre
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Mr.Sridhar
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Procter James