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------ Forwarded Message From: Michael Grabe mgrabe@itsa.ucsf.edu Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:33:05 -0700 To: modeller-care@salilab.org Subject: two attached small, pdb files
Dear Modellers,
Let me describe a minor problem I have encountered with modeller 6V2 on Mac OSX,
What I do:
I take a small alpha helix (25 amino acids) and I copy it and translate it.
I then concatenate the two alpha helix pdb files, separating the first and the second alpha helix by a TER line.
Note, the original helix is missing a capping oxygen at the last residue.
Now I renumber the pdb amino acids so that they go from 1 to 50 instead of 1 to 25 and then 1 to 25 (see helices.ini).
I then start to work with this pdb file without any alignment file.
I run this modeller script on the two alpha helices:
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% INCLUDE
READ_MODEL FILE = 'helices.ini'
READ_TOPOLOGY FILE = '$(LIB)/top_heav.lib' READ_PARAMETERS FILE = '$(LIB)/par.lib'
GENERATE_TOPOLOGY SEQUENCE = 'temp'
WRITE_MODEL FILE = 'refine0.pdb' OPTIMIZE MAX_ITERATIONS = 100 WRITE_MODEL FILE = 'refine1.pdb' ENERGY %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Now if I look at refine0.pdb generated from modeller, I have a problem.
As I mentioned before amino acids 25 and 50 are missing capping oxygens, but modeller puts them on for me and refine0.pdb has two more atoms than the initial helices.ini.
***Here is the point, the added oxygen to amino acid 25 shifts the labeling of all of the atoms and their positions in the second alpha helix. ***
Look at and compare atoms 201 to 206 in the attached files to see exactly what I mean. Once you see, it will be clear that the optimization that follows has a bit of a tough time since all of the atoms in the second helix have shifted positions.
Any hints about how to make this better?
Thanks, Michael
------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------- Michael Grabe, Ph.D. Post-doctoral Fellow Howard Hughes Medical Institute University of California, San Francisco 533 Parnassus Ave. San Francisco, CA 94143 mgrabe@itsa.ucsf.edu tel: ++ 415.476.6585 http://itsa.ucsf.edu/~mgrabe
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:28:37 -0700 Modeller Care modeller-care@salilab.org forwarded : > From: Michael Grabe mgrabe@itsa.ucsf.edu > I take a small alpha helix (25 amino acids) and I copy it and > translate it. > <snip> > > I then start to work with this pdb file without any alignment file. > Ok. With missing backbone atoms, you are really asking for trouble with modeller! The optimization step really wants reasonable backbone geometry, since that is what comes out of the distance geometry functions.
> > Any hints about how to make this better? Add the extra oxygens! Either find some plausible coordinates, use something like the maxsprout server, do an approximate bond calculation, or even use a viewer that can 'edit' pdb files (swisspdb will do this, for instance).
The alternative is to wait for a bug-fix :-) j.
_______________________________________________________________________ Dr JB Procter:Biomolecular Modelling at ZBH - Center for Bioinformatics Hamburg http://www.zbh.uni-hamburg.de/mitarbeiter/procter
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