Ok I see now how I can include all the sequence from the PDB file, and then just put dashes in the alignment in the target. I've been making models of the tetramer and they are making sense by eye.

Now I would like to confirm that I am doing the C4 symmetry right. How does the code below look? I extended it from the link you sent me: https://salilab.org/modeller/9.24/manual/node29.html

Do I need to do all the pairs (AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD) or only the minimal (AB, BC, CD)? In other words is the symmetry like the transitive property of equality? Would C3 symmetry between chains ABC be (AB, AC, BC) or just (AB, BC)?

# Override the 'special_restraints' and 'user_after_single_model' methods:
class MyModel(automodel):
    def special_restraints(self, aln):
        # Constrain the A and B chains to be identical (but only restrain
        # the C-alpha atoms, to reduce the number of interatomic distances
        # that need to be calculated):
        s1 = selection(self.chains['A']).only_atom_types('CA')
        s2 = selection(self.chains['B']).only_atom_types('CA')
        s3 = selection(self.chains['C']).only_atom_types('CA')
        s4 = selection(self.chains['D']).only_atom_types('CA')
        self.restraints.symmetry.append(symmetry(s1, s2, 1.0))
        self.restraints.symmetry.append(symmetry(s1, s3, 1.0))
        self.restraints.symmetry.append(symmetry(s1, s4, 1.0))
        self.restraints.symmetry.append(symmetry(s2, s3, 1.0))
        self.restraints.symmetry.append(symmetry(s2, s4, 1.0))
        self.restraints.symmetry.append(symmetry(s3, s4, 1.0))
    def user_after_single_model(self):
        # Report on symmetry violations greater than 1A after building
        # each model:
        self.restraints.symmetry.report(1.0)



On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:05 PM Modeller Caretaker <modeller-care@salilab.org> wrote:
On 7/8/20 5:46 AM, Geoffrey Woollard wrote:
> Using the example https://salilab.org/modeller/9.24/manual/node29.html,
> let's say I just want to model a subsequence in the middle
> (YRKMWCDAFCSSRGKVVELGCAATCPSKK, residues 24-52). How would I change the
> ali file. I'm getting stuck on the "structureX:2abx: 24 :A:52 :B" part
> since really it's 24-52 in chain A and 24-52 in chain B, not 24 in chain
> A to 52 in chain B.

You can only specify a single residue range in your alignment file, so
this will have Modeller read the ATOM/HETATM records from your PDB
starting at residue 24 in chain A, until it reaches residue 52 in chain
B. If you're not interested in residues 53+ in chain A or 1-23 in chain
B, either include the sequence but align it with gaps in the target, or
delete the coordinates from the PDB file using a text editor.

        Ben Webb, Modeller Caretaker
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