Re: [modeller_usage] [clustering] does MODELLER provide tools to cluster structures ?
To: Min-yi Shen <>
Subject: Re: [modeller_usage] [clustering] does MODELLER provide tools to cluster structures ?
From: Benjamin SCHWARZ <>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:19:11 +0200
Cc: modeller <>
Hi Min-yi Shen, and thanks for sharing your experience,
As a matter of facts, I was considering the possibility to use such a scheme as the one you describe (RMSD + linkage ). I didn't realize there could be a symmetry problem with the RMSD distance, but I guess guiding this computation with the multiple alignment should leverage the issue.
--Ben
Le 24 oct. 2011 à 19:38, Min-yi Shen a écrit :
> My own workaround long time ago (2005) was
> (1) generate N models
> (2) filter out some bad models with objective values
> (3) compute all-against-all RMSDs as a N-by-N matrix (just write a
> double loop in py)
> (4) Do hierarchical agglomerative clustering in R.
>
> The problem with (4) is that 1. the distance measure from step 3 may
> or may not obey the triangular inequality, and 2. it varies with
> cluster linkage methods.
>
> so, I finally opted to use some graph-based clustering methods like
> MCL http://micans.org/mcl.